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Old September 17th   #1
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Cool chip vs programmer

Hey guys..I just picked up an 05 mustang gt and the first thing I want to do is either add a chip or use a programmer. Any tips on what is more effective between the 2 on the new models? Thanks
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First, pick yourself a shop with a good tuner. I would go with one of the handhelp tuners, but it is the person tuning the device and car that really makes a difference.
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After you pick your poison (diablo or SCT) I would then pick a hand held programmer. They are alot more flexible. Here is an example.

Lets say down the road a few months you decide to put gears in your stang...with a chip you would have to take the chip out and mail it off to your tuner to get them to change the gear ratios so that your speedometer would be accurate. With a hand you change the gear settings using the on screen menus and then download the corrected settings to the computer in the car and you are done in 15 mins.
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After you pick your poison (diablo or SCT) I would then pick a hand held programmer. They are alot more flexible. Here is an example.

Lets say down the road a few months you decide to put gears in your stang...with a chip you would have to take the chip out and mail it off to your tuner to get them to change the gear ratios so that your speedometer would be accurate. With a hand you change the gear settings using the on screen menus and then download the corrected settings to the computer in the car and you are done in 15 mins.
I have a predator for my cobra. I don't like the fact that my changes only apply to WOT conditions. I would like to be able to make changes across the board. I want something that lets me do more. I also have an EEC tuner that was on my V6, but ran into problems trying to get it to mate to the cobra.

For example: I could control when my IMRC's opened or closed on the EEC tuner, turn off air pumps, change timing in relation to coolant temp, etc, etc.

Try and do that with a handheld. Although it is more trial and error with the EEC tuner, and support is non-existent but I liked the broad abilities of it. I feel that the handhelds are for someone who wants to tinker but doesn't want to get to indepth to it.

I personally feel that a chip burned on a dyno by an experienced tuner is best.......However, so that you don't waste time and money. Plan your ride for what you want and then do it.

i.e. If you want a 400hp motor, find out what you need to get it there. start buying, put it all together and then get it tuned.

I know that's easier said than done but it is probably a better way to do it.

Right now I plan on putting on a dry shot, a short runner intake, longtubes, some sort of CAI and then I'll be done. My plan is 350 RWHP NA/ 450 on the juice, but getting it all tuned on the Dyno. If I got a wideband I could do some tuning on the street but I don't like trying to do some "spirited" driving while datalogging, and trying to keep an eye on AF ratio.

Just my thoughts...
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Thanks guys. It's obviously under warranty so I don't want to do to much right now. 400 FHP horsepower is really all I want. I plan on gears (3.73 later), cat back exhaust, and not much else. To get the big power boost to 400 I will want a 6 pound supercharger, but again, not until the warranty is up. I just want something to make the car slightly more aggressive until then. Thanks for the input...how's a hypertech programmer...any experiences?
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I had bought one in the past and it wasn't worth squat. I returned it. If you go with a handheld go SCT or diablosport. At least they have some adjustability.
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